然而基督徒或者msl还未必领情


【 在 capablanca 的大作中提到: 】
: 你之前讲的儒家和基督教很有关系，这回轮到道教了，过几天发现佛教也是，感情亚伯拉罕宗教是一切之祖，或者是万精油。
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【 在 perl 的大作中提到: 】
: 恕我愚钝，先看了一遍，没发现，在您的鞭策之下，又看了几遍，虽然很不清晰，还是没看到。还请您垂怜一下我，一个年近半百的人盯着个模糊的图片，很辛苦的，明示出来吧

你吧， 没本事就不要来趟这个浑水了
看点历史地理，红楼梦多好，
搞哲学， 自己搜搜都不会吗？
随便一搜一大把， 英文论文都够了

Despite the fact that Tao Te Ching has a totally different background, it contains principles that are universal. Thus, for instance, the implication of Tao is similar to Christian understanding of the good: “The supreme good is like water, which nourishes all things without trying to. It is content with the low places that people disdain. Thus it is like the Tao.”In fact, like Christianity, Taoism believes that goodness is natural for a human soul, that people are initially born good. Thus, it is just worth recollecting about this and reconnecting to Tao in order to live gracefully. Simplicity is another aspect that Tao Te Ching suggests as a criterion of goodness: “In dwelling, live close to the ground. In thinking, keep to the simple.

In conflict, be fair and generous”. It is also interesting how the Christian principle of trust to God is parallel to Taoism. Thus, it is suggested by Christianity that one should not care about survival as it is God’s work, and a similar idea is expressed in the analyzed Tao Te Ching Passage: “In governing, don't try to control”. Although it can have several implications, one of possible interpretations is trust one life to the divine force without trying to influence or control it.

Personally, I believe that both the Sermon of Mount and Tao Te Ching (Section 8) speak about the universal truths, although they originate from different religions. The idea of goodness as the key principle of human life is appealing and is not offered to be achieved through extraordinary practices or feats. Both Taoism and Christianity suggest that everyday life in society, at work and in a family is the main and the most important religious practice, which requires decisiveness to follow the moral rules. It might be simple to follow them when no temptation emerges, but when one lives in the world where both the good and the evil are present, it gives an opportunity for a personal and spiritual growth.
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再来一个

In many ways Christianity is, to my mind, a logical extension of Taoism in the search for spirituality. Many of the principles of Christianity have parallels in Taoism. For example, the benefits of service and charity:

“The sage never stores things up.

The more he does for others, the more he has.

The more he gives to others, the greater his abundance.”

Compare this with Acts 20:35 – “I have shewed you all things, how that so laboring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, He said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive’”

The wisdom of avoiding materialism:

                        “Amass a store of gold and jade, and no one can protect it

Claim wealth and titles, and disaster will follow.”

Similarly – Matthew 6:19 – “Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:”

The contentment of being satisfied with what we have:

                        “He who knows he has enough is rich.”

Note Paul’s observation – Philippians 4:11b-12 – “for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content. I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: everywhere and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.”

The value of service and humility:

                       “Why is the sea king of a hundred streams?

                        Because it lies below them.

                        Therefore it is the king of a hundred streams.

                        If the sage would guide the people, he must serve with humility.”

Note the teaching of Jesus – Matthew 20:26-27 – “But it shall not be so with you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:”

More generally Taoism teaches the rejection of blind materialism, mistreating others and striving to change the natural order of the creation:

                       “The universe is sacred.

                        You cannot improve it.

                        If you try to change it, you will ruin it.

                        If you try to hold it, you will lose it.”

In many ways the teachings of the Bible mirror the teachings of Taoism. Yet there are important differences between these two approaches to life. The reason I felt the need to move on from a Taoist approach to life is that I found the philosophy of the Tao incomplete. While Lao Tsu had a deep and penetrating view of life, this view did not go to the absolute conclusion we need. Anything short of the absolute truth is less than we should be willing to settle for.

Specifically, the Tao never answers two critical questions.

First, what is the reason for our being or why are we here?

Second is how do we achieve this “better way of living”?

Taoism suffers from the same problem that all manmade religion does. Religion can tell us what we need to do to be “good” but it cannot tell us how to do it. This is the same limitation of the Law of Moses. The law tells us what is right but is totally impotent in allowing us to achieve it. As we know all too well from the experience of law based Christianity, knowing what is good is little help in actually doing good.

As to the first shortcoming – why are we here – I have found no understanding apart from biblical Christianity that answers this question. The reason for the physical creation can only be found in the understanding of God as creator and Father. We are here to become children in God’s family. This answer is found nowhere else. The question is not raised in Taoism or any eastern religion. This question is not (and cannot be) answered by western science. Apart from biblical teaching we are left with the idea that the universe just is – without reason or deeper purpose. While this may be fine in the superficial it leaves us with a world that contains no hope.

While Taoism is one of the best human attempts of giving guidance for meaningful living, it suffers from the same problem that all purely human efforts have. Namely, without God our efforts to live correctly are merely efforts to be the god of our own life. Given this we can see that all human attempts at right living lack the resources



【 在 ibm221 的大作中提到: 】
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: 你吧， 没本事就不要来趟这个浑水了
: 看点历史地理，红楼梦多好，
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那个坑就不去踩了，
相似性是没什么可以说的，
远也有可能抄了别人的论文了，
其他人的动机应该没那么复杂


【 在 LightYagami 的大作中提到: 】
: 为了避免贴不上来，请搜索
: 远志明的《老子与圣经》是异端之作
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哪句有问题？
吹牛？ 中性词啊， 不要玻璃心

上贴不够客气？
如果真有人借老子的名分搞些乌七八糟的东西
确实很令人气愤，
一个很淳朴的，很低调的， 很单纯的人
被包装成了一个工具，
他的智慧被滥用， 造成了大量误解
这个事情确实需要严肃认真对待，




【 在 perl 的大作中提到: 】
: 好了，我删帖，看来本版也就这个水平了，我还以为无论是圣经还是道德经，钻研多了即使达不到圣贤的标准，但谦谦君子还是可以的，是我幼稚了
: 出门右转去贩卖你的圣贤，
: 圣经版， 懂不
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