play不是指传球，play的含义非常广泛，铲球当然是play，很多情况下谁也不知道铲球后球会滚向哪里，你只要说科内特法比尼奥是不是主动铲球，如果是主动铲球，那毫无疑问是deliberately play,fifa关于越位得利或者不越位得利里面play和save都有deliberately的前缀，所以你必要讨论deliberately，就讨论play和save的区别。

科内特和法比尼奥这个deliberately play是不是属于save？这个才是问题，play包含了save，因此要把这个save的情况剔除出去，所以fifa才会单独给出一个save的定义。

A player in an offside position：

gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when ithas been deliberately saved by any opponent.
这句话是说越位得利，谈到了deliberately save。

紧接着要告诉大家什么情况下不是越位得利
receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball, including by deliberate handball, is not considered to have gained an advantage, unless it was a deliberate save by any opponent.
save作为例外给出，这句话的意思就很明确地说明deliberately play包含了save，所以接下来就要给出save的意思

A ‘save’ is when a player stops, or attempts to stop, a ball which is going into or very close to the goal with any part of the body except the hands/arms (unless the goalkeeper within the penalty area).

英语的逻辑都是一环扣一环的，不存在偏差




【 在 youyo 的大作中提到: 】
: 看起来，大家对于本泽马是否处于越位位置和是否从越位位置获利是没什么疑问的，都是。
: 争论的焦点在于巴尔韦德向前出球后法比尼奥碰到了球，这球是算法比尼奥传的还是巴尔韦德传的。
: 其实规则很清楚，官方也已经解释得很清楚了，法比尼奥不是“主动”传球，这里的主动就是“deliberately”的意思。
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