IFAB里面的是这样的：
   A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball, including by deliberate handball, is not considered to have gained an advantage, unless it was a deliberate save by any opponent.
   A ‘save’ is when a player stops, or attempts to stop, a ball which is going into or very close to the goal with any part of the body except the hands/arms (unless the goalkeeper within the penalty area).
法比尼奥那个动作不能算save，无非就是是否属于deliberately play的问题。
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英语不好，麻烦翻译下，我不认可那个球是越位
【 在 Eldo 的大作中提到: 】
: 法国对西班牙那场，裁判就认为加西亚那个动作是deliberately plays。
: 法比尼奥这个，他自己去飞铲的，怎么就不是deliberately play了？你倒是别去铲，让巴尔韦德有机会从科纳特脚下抢球，说不定就进了。
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你怕是对save有什么误解？

【 在 Eldo 的大作中提到: 】
: 标  题: 科普一下从对方脚下拿球的不越位规则
: 发信站: 水木社区 (Sun May 29 22:49:57 2022), 站内
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: IFAB里面的是这样的：
:    A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball, including by deliberate handball, is not considered to have gained an advantage, unless it was a deliberate save by any opponent.
:    A ‘save’ is when a player stops, or attempts to stop, a ball which is going into or very close to the goal with any part of the body except the hands/arms (unless the goalkeeper within the penalty area).
: 法比尼奥那个动作不能算save，无非就是是否属于deliberately play的问题。
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这里save应该只指堵门
【 在 ChouDeSe 的大作中提到: 】
: 你怕是对save有什么误解？
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法国和西班牙的那个球上次也讨论了很久，早就说那样的判罚不合理了。
上次的点在于：不是save，因为挡的是传球不是射门。但是这样的判罚太粗糙了，因为防守方很难判断清楚什么是传球什么是射门，只能每球必争的去努力。

所以这次的判罚更贴近自然理解。

【 在 Eldo 的大作中提到: 】
: 不考虑手球和救球的话，其实就是这句话：A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball, is not considered to have gained an advantage。
: 一个处于越位位置的球员从deliberately plays the ball的对方球员那里获得球，不认定为(从越位位置)获利。
: deliberately是故意，有意，存心，不慌不忙，从容等意思。
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