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COLLECTION AND PREPARATION OF ALPS TREATED WATER SAMPLES
Samples for this ILC were collected on 24 March 2022 from the K4-B ALPS facility at FDNPS, with observation by IAEA staff members.
The K4-B tank group is one of three measurement and confirmation units in the ALPS discharge facility that was under construction at FDNPS at that time. It is comprised of 10 individual 1,000 m° storage tanks that have been re-utilized for this purpose. The tanks are interconnected and the contents are circulated by pumping. Additionally, the water in individual tanks is agitated Previously, TEPCO had performed a circulation and agitation experiment at K4-B to demonstrate the adequacy of its method for ensuring the homogenisation of the ALPS treated water content prior to sampling [7]. Once the discharge facility has been completed, this will become normal practice under TEPCO's source monitoring plan.
Prior to sampling for this ILC, circulation and agitation was conducted in the same way by
TEPCO for 14 days to ensure inter sample homogeneity and, thus, suitability of the samples for the provision of comparable results of analyses.
The samples were collected directly from one of the interconnection pipes at K4-B. A volume of 25.3 L of ALPS treated water was collected for each participating laboratory: 5 x 5 L in plastic cubitainers and 3 x 100 mL in amber glass bottles. The sample containers were assigned and labelled beforehand and were immediately sealed with tamper proof tape under IAEA observation. The samples were not acidified or filtered prior to shipping.
The samples were received by the IAEA laboratories in Monaco and Austria and by the participating ALMERA laboratories between August and October 2022.

【 在 MidNiter 的大作中提到: 】
: 你可以给我更可靠的非简中链接，我认为其中的内容属实不是空穴来风。你否认其中的真实性，就轮到该你举证或给出理由了。
: 至于你的那部分，希望你也按自己的标准，给我拿出证明“独立采样”的依据。你列出的那个报告里所谓的独立采样，问题在哪里我前边已经说了。希望你能知道什么叫真正的独立采样，能切实回答我的问题。
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看样子你是没法证明那个你一知半解的“独立采样”了吧？就只能在这里嘴硬了。

关于太平洋岛国论坛，6月的反对立场声明之后，查到8月23日有个更新的声明：https://www.forumsec.org/2023/08/23/statement-pif-chair-hon-mark-brown-on-the-fukushima-alps-treated-water-discharge/
似乎该组织是勉强接受了排污水，但是：“It is not lost on me that there remains diverging views and responses in the international community, and within our Blue Pacific region.”说明在Blue Pacific区域国家内仍有不同的声音。

现在请你证明你的“独立采样”的说法。

【 在 cre 的大作中提到: 】
: 谁主张，谁举证
: 你说的很多国家反对，自然是由你举证，原国家政府的官网链接
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我们国家派人过去，如果没有足够的自由抽检和随地临时监督的权限的话，没什么效果，反而显得国家对立。
应该督促IAEA重视对排海有效评估和有效监督，如果发现出错或者作假，绝不能跟以前一样鞠躬了事。此前的评估采样独立性有缺陷，不足为凭。还应该考察其他对环境更为友好的方法。
所谓的有效监督，就得是防范性质的，打假性质的，不然没有意义。
目前周边各国只能采取外围监督，但是外围监督没那么及时，没那么直接，也没那么灵敏。即使真的有损害，可能发现也晚了，或者日本压根就否认有影响，或者不承认因果关系，或许还会反咬中国。
日本的在线检测，如果不能飞行突袭临检或者长驻随时检查的话，可以作假的地方太多了。
【 在 happyxjh 的大作中提到: 】
: 日本已经排放了 我们国家能派人去采样测试吗？日本总不能拒绝这种请求
: 发自「今日水木 on iOS」
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柴大官人不拍。
【 在 ClaritySea 的大作中提到: 】
: 制作一个核污水危害视频在媒体上宣传，讲述一下对海洋、水产品、人体的危害，更容易了解其危害，让全世界都看看； ...
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